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This is an ACB Community Call presented by American Council of the Blind.

This Unmute Presents Community Call was hosted on Tuesday, May 16th, 2023.

Good morning everyone and welcome back to another Unmute.

Thanks for all coming and being here and participating.

If you have the tech questions, go ahead and raise your hands and we’ll get to you.

We just want to make sure that we get through everyone’s first questions and if we get through everyone and we have extra time, we’ll definitely take second questions and be respectful, give everyone the same respect that you would want for your question to be answered to everyone else in the same way.

So we appreciate that and everyone else does as well.

And if you have any questions, comments, or anything like that, you can always reach us at feedback at unmute.show.

And Michael, how are you doing today?

I’m doing well, Marty, and I have an echo in my head.

So give me a quick second so I can turn that off because that’s always fun.

Oh yeah, you always have echoes in your head.

We won’t talk about that.

I appreciate you mentioning the email address and I do see we have a hand.

We’ll get to that here in a moment.

And thank you to Monica.

And I believe Herbie is connecting us, though we didn’t officially figure that out.

So thank you to Herbie for making that happen as well.

And the listeners on ACB Media 5 for tuning in.

I’m going to give you a recap of some of the content that’s been published on Unmute, but Marty did mention the email and we are working on some interesting projects.

So if you have any positive and or negative feedback about Unmute and the content that we’re producing, we don’t like to ask for feedback a lot, but we’re in the process of trying to gather some of that to improve the experience for everyone.

So if you have any feedback, again, positive and negative, please write that out and or share it with us live and we will gather that up and make some changes to help produce a more streamlined and better experience for everyone involved.

Now on Sunday, we published an audio and I didn’t tell Marty that I was going to do this, but I got to mention and be fully transparent.

Marty sent me this audio that says identifying music with your mobile device and he shows you how to do that with Siri.

And as I was editing it, I guess I did mention it in the recording as I was editing it.

I’m like, we should tell you how to do this on Android and the blind show.

So if you’re curious about what music is playing around you and you have one of those three platforms, definitely go check out Sunday’s episode and get the content in under two and a half minutes.

On Friday, Lynn and Marty sat down and talked about Apple’s new products that they released for the iPad.

Uh, Apple had some good announcements today.

I wonder if Marty wants to talk about that and why, and then they also recapped the Google IO event.

On Thursday, we published a podcast episode with Lucy from games to play with lady a and she came and talked about a lady a and different basic tasks you can do.

And uh, you know, sometimes it’s, sometimes it’s those everyday tasks that we complete and we don’t really think about it.

So she goes over some of those basic tips as well for you.

And then of course we published last Tuesday’s call.

So I’m going to actually ask Monica if we have any hands and Marty has some talking points to fill if we don’t have any, so Monica, do we have any hands?

Okay.

We have Chrissy.

Hey Chrissy.

How are you doing?

Hello.

How are you doing?

Good.

Good.

Thanks.

Good.

Good.

Two questions.

One, do you have a recommendation for a, a phone recording app?

Like if I need to record some phone calls and two, is there a way for a blind person to use the measure app?

My first question to you is, is it, are you looking for this on a computer, on a phone?

What are you looking for?

I’m sorry, on the iPhone, excuse me.

Well, if you’re looking to record, I can highly recommend just press record as a third party app.

It works great with voiceover and all of that.

Well, and I’m talking about like recording phone calls, like taping phone calls.

I didn’t know that that’s what I was thinking about.

I don’t know.

Is it anything like that?

Yeah, I don’t think Apple lets you do that.

And someone will let us know for sure if we’re incorrect in that, but I don’t think you have the capability of recording phone calls on the phone.

However, and here’s, here’s something to be aware of because I’m all about finding, you know, loopholes and stuff.

If you do need to record a call, you can set up a zoom meeting that always records the conversation and then you and the person you need to record can call into that zoom meeting.

And then when you’re done, it will email you a copy of that recording.

So if it’s something you just need a recording of quickly, or you need to talk to someone and get a recording of it, that could be a solution for you as well.

Gotcha.

Okay.

And then what was your other, Oh, the measure app.

I have not used it.

I do believe it can, you can.

So in the measure app itself, there’s additional functionality.

So if you have a phone that supports LIDAR, for example, on the pro, okay.

So in the measure app, you can go in there and you can configure it to let you know about different objects in your environment.

And it can also give you the distance between you and the person in front of you.

And that information is accessible to voiceover.

I do recommend checking it out.

Or if you go to the living blindfully website, you can do a search for measure app or, or I would just search for measure app and Jonathan Mosen put together a demonstration showing you how you can configure the measure app and what you can track the distance of.

You might want to say measure app with accessibility or with voiceover.

Otherwise it might show you.

No, no living blindfully is all going to be accessible.

So if you just type in measure app and search, it’ll bring up all of the posts that he’s done with voiceover in the measure app.

Okay.

I can do that.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Next we have Beth.

Hey Beth.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I have an iPhone 13 mini and I’m wondering since it doesn’t have a home button, you know, I, I go like start from the bottom and kind of hold and then go up and, and I can some, sometimes I hit apps, which are when I don’t want to like, and then, and then, you know, like just say if I’m going from one app, just say I’m going from just say clocked YouTube, just say, sometimes I go app, you know, hit apps, which are when I don’t want to, or I’m on YouTube.

And, and so how do I do that?

Sometimes I do it right.

Sometimes I, it goes out of that app.

Yeah.

Okay.

So there’s, there’s two things.

You put your finger on the line at the bottom and you slide up.

Now you’re going to get a first haptic feedback or tone, and then you let go and that’ll take you to your screen, you know, your home screen.

But if you keep your finger on there and you keep sliding up, you’ll get a second tone and that’s going to take you to the app switcher where you see all of your open apps and stuff.

If you wanted to close apps that are running in the background, that’s how you would do it.

You would do a three finger swipe up on each app once you get there.

But if you’re not trying to do that, then you just try and listen for the first haptic feedback and then let go and it will take you back to your home screen.

So what haptic feedback, you’ll hear like a little vibration and a little tone.

So I don’t like I put, I put my finger on the line at the bottom, but I don’t really like hold it.

Well, you keep your finger on the line as you’re sliding up.

When you hear the first tone and haptic feedback, then you let go and it will take you to your home screen.

So if you keep your finger on there and you continue sliding up the second tone and or the second haptic feedback will take you to the app switcher.

Okay.

And another thing, um, now I use the side button on the right to, you know, tell Siri, you know, call so-and-so, but I can’t get the power off with that button.

So I’m wondering where’s the power on these.

So you can do one of two things.

If you just need to like restart your phone and you’re up to date on your operating system, you can invoke Siri and you can say, restart my device.

And then it will ask you, are you sure you want to do this?

And you say yes, and it will shut your device down and restart it back up again for you.

If you want to shut it off and you want to keep it turned off, you would go to settings general and slide all the way down to the bottom and you’ll see shut down.

You tap that and then it will shut your phone off.

You can actually tell Siri to turn off the phone.

I just did it because I didn’t think you could, but it will do that now too.

So if that’s easier for you.

Yep.

Yeah.

Sounds good.

Okay.

Thank you, Marty.

Thank you.

Next we have Debra Armstrong.

Hey Debra.

Hey, so I have a solution to recording telephone calls I really like and it works with all models of telephone.

Don’t it, and it does not have the section core, the section cup.

So that’s not what I’m talking about.

It is called the Olympus TP8 telephone pickup.

You can get it on Amazon and what it is, is that any bitty microphone that fits in your ear, kind of like a binaural mic, but tinier.

It’s very tiny.

So if it’s in your ear, like a hearing aid or an earbud and you plug it into any recorder, it works with my Victor reader stream.

It works with my Evo.

It works with all my Olympus digital recorders.

And what’s nice about it is the volume level for you and the person at the other end is identical.

And so it’s just like an earbud, but it’s a microphone.

I think it’s about 13 bucks.

It’s really cheap.

I’ve found it to be far more accurate than using an app because you’re using your recorder, which you know and love like your Victor reader stream.

You do have to set the Victor reader stream to microphone input, external microphone input rather than line in.

And it is one of those, what do they call it?

Fake power.

It’s, you know, it gets its power.

Phantom power.

Yeah.

You know what I’m talking about.

Yep.

Okay.

You can explain that in more detail.

I’m going to go on mute.

You understand how it works now.

If you could possibly send us a link to that so we can check it out, that would be really awesome.

I wrote it down.

I’m going to find it.

I wrote it down.

So thank you.

I really.

TP8.

Olympus TP8.

It says telephone pickup, but it actually does not have the suction cup duper.

Gotcha.

Because the suction cup only works with a wired phone.

It’s not going to work on your cell phone.

Perfect.

Well, thank you very much.

We appreciate it.

So I’m going to go buy a microphone here, Marty, while we’re talking, because that looks pretty cool.

Oh, you got some serious echo going on.

Yeah.

We’re hearing some feedback, I think, from Herbie, because we’re hearing Zoom audio back to us.

Monica, do we have any other hand?

Okay.

And I can’t hear because he’s in podcast.

Herbie.

Herbie.

Are you there?

So you can mute him.

He’s just not going to be able to participate.

Are you still hearing yourself?

Yes.

Yes.

We don’t have any raised hands in Clubhouse at the moment, so I’ll go mute and get everything for you.

Okay.

I’m going to go with it, but I don’t know that the list…

There we go.

I don’t know if the listeners would actually like it.

No one really apparently has any questions today.

So Marty…

Why don’t we talk about the new accessibility features that were announced today?

And for what, Michael?

What was it announced for?

What is Thursday?

Thursday is Global Accessibility Awareness Day.

So I was kind of surprised that Apple made their announcement today and didn’t wait until Thursday.

Let’s talk more about that in a moment because I do see we have a couple of hands.

Monica.

Yep.

Jewel.

Hey, Jewel.

Hey, Jewel.

How’s it going?

I have a quick question and it’s another non-English language question, so I’m not sure y’all can help with that.

So I’m finding that books in other languages are not going to translate to the braille code for that language.

And I was wondering if there’s something that can translate it so that the computer thinks this is…

For example, when you read something on a website in another language with voiceover JAWS, it says…

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[Music]

Hey all, Marty here. You know that moment when you’re either in a store or possibly a car

or maybe hanging out with friends and music’s playing? You hear this song and you go, “Oh,

I know this song. Wait, who is this?” Well, let me show you how you can find out.

On an iPhone, what you would do is invoke Siri, say what song is this, point your phone in the

direction of the music, give it a second or two, and see if it comes back with who the artist is,

and what the name of the song is. So Marty dropped this to me and said, “Hey, this is what we’re

going to share for Monday.” I said, “Thanks, Marty. Got it. Appreciate it.” And then I edited it,

And I said, I should probably add a little here just to give you guys a quick heads up.

If you’re an Android user, remember you can do the same thing as well. Invoke Google assistant

and ask it what song is this? Often it will show you right away. A cool thing about Pixel devices,

at least, and I believe other Android devices, is you can set it up to always listen. And whenever

you’re hearing a song, it can show that on the lock screen and you can get a history of the

songs that were shown, go poke around in some configuration and you can get that all set up.

Again, if you’re a pixel user, I can also provide some content and show you how to do that,

if interested. Lastly, if you are using a Blind Shell Classic 2, I do realize that some of our

listeners are definitely download the Shazam application from the Blind Shell app catalog

for similar, not as smooth, but similar behavior to I’d done myself.

Have a beautiful day.

And there you go.

Enjoy, good luck, and we’ll see you next time.

Music thanks to Andre Louis and his shorts collection.

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On this episode, Michael talks to Marty, Angie, and Lynn about the following topics

• Apple Announces Logic Pro and Final Cut for iPadOS
• Google announces new versions of their AI products like updates to Bard and Generative Google Search
• Google Announces Google Pixel 7a
• Google Pixel Tablet is released after a year
• Google releases the Pixel Fold

Picks

• Marty: Ferrite for iPad
• Lynn: Google Bard
• Michael: Star Trek Deep Space 9 Season 3

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On this episode, Michael speaks with Marty, Lynn, and Angie about the following topics:

Tech News

• We discuss latest rumors about WWDC and 15 inch MacBook Air
• We predict what’s going to happen at Google I/O 2023
• Will BlueSky Last? We discuss this on the podcast as well.

Main Discussion

We discuss the Mona for Mastodon app, and how to manage your digital subscriptions. This includes SetApp, and others.

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• Marty: Just Press Record
• Lynn: MacWhisper
• Angie: Mona for Mastodon
• Michael: Nintendo Switch OLED Edition

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>> Hey all, Marty here with another Friday Fines with Lynn.

Hey Lynn, how’s it going?

>> It’s going great. We’ve got a lot to talk about today.

>> Cool. Let’s get to it.

>> So yeah, I was telling Marty,

we were talking before the show and I was like, you know what?

Everybody has to check their updates now because there’s so much happening,

so many updates and so many different apps

that many of us use.

I guess the first thing we should talk about

is some really awesome news.

Did you wanna mention about the Final Cut Pro and–

• Yeah, sure.

So, yeah, there were some huge news

in the Apple world this week,

and that is Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro

are coming to the iPad.

And this has been a long time coming.

People have been wanting this for a really long time.

So basically Final Cut Pro is Apple’s professional

video editing software and Logic Pro is Apple’s professional

audio editing software.

And it’s been on the computer for many years.

It’s been a staple in both the video and the audio community

for many years now.

And people have been hankering to get these apps on the iPad.

The iPad has been something that they’ve been making

really overpowered hardware for in the past few years,

putting M processors into the iPads

and really fast RAM and hard drives,

but there hasn’t really been the Apple professional software

to fit the hardware, but now there will be,

and it will really take advantage of that hardware

they’ve built building out.

So people are really excited about that.

They did redesign some of them in some areas

to fit the iPad more, you know, with some touch gestures,

with some new Apple pencil gestures,

depending on the version of iPad you have.

And all of this is gonna drop on May 23rd,

and it’s going to be $5 a month or $50 a year for each app.

So not too bad for most people,

definitely at the professional level.

I thought it would have been a lot more money,

to be honest with you, but actually came in at a good price.

I think $5 or $5 a month or $5 a year

is actually a good deal.

So, Lynn, do you got any thoughts on this?

• I do, I think that as you and I

had been talking about before,

the iPad is really becoming a good,

almost a good MacBook Air replacement in a lot of ways,

considering that, well, it’s less expensive, right?

• It depends which iPad you get.

Sometimes it can be pretty competitive,

but if you go with some of the higher end models,

it can be almost as much as a MacBook Air.

• And with the increased power of the iPads,

It could be actually an option now that more really powerful apps are coming online for the iPad to use it.

As I might have mentioned before, I’m somebody that likes to move with their tech.

I like my tech to move with me.

I don’t necessarily like to be pinned to a desk.

Part of that is because I have some caregiver responsibilities with my mom.

Part of it is that i’m just kind of a jumpy and see person and i like to move around while i’m working and the ipad is a great.

Way to actually make that happen and now with the increase power and increase capabilities of the ipad it really i never thought i wanted an ipad cuz i’m totally blind and i always thought why would a blind person want an ipad but i can definitely see now.

where it’s like that in between, the phone and the step up from the iPhone would be the iPad now.

And it’s really becoming a device that is worth considering, I think, based on

apps like this coming on to the iPad and others and just the power of it.

Yeah, and I would definitely say, you can also plug or either plug in depending on which keyboard

you get or have a Bluetooth keyboard.

But in a lot of scenarios, I would say it would almost be better than a laptop for some

people because of its ease of use.

If you use a phone, then you’re going to be familiar when you go to an iPad if you haven’t

had an iPad in the past.

And for some people, you know, they’re not real super techy people and they don’t really

want to learn the whole operating system of a computer and how voiceover works on a computer

if they need that. So an iPad is a great alternative where you can get day-to-day

tasks done like email and browsing the web and listening to music and maybe writing documents.

And now they’re allowing that span of professional creator to be able to utilize the iPad as well.

So I think these are all great things and I can’t wait till they come out so that we can see

how it all works and where it all goes from here.

So I think this is just a really great push forward.

>> We’re waiting for WWDC just coming up.

>> Yeah, just about a month away now.

>> Yes. But our friends at Google have

their own Google I/O yesterday.

There were some interesting things coming out of that as well.

Speaking of powerful hardware,

You have a pixel phone, right? With the the fold?

Yeah, so awesome. Yeah, they got a pixel fold which came out and what this means is the phone actually

folds in half

Kind of like a sandwich if you were to look at it that way

And so you have a screen on the outside so you can use it. Well, it’s closed like in regular

It would feel like a regular phone that you have in your hand now

But then you could open it up and then you have twice the screen real estate

Once you have it opened up and in the middle you’ll have a whole big

Screen that’s kind of like the size of two phones together or two phone screens together

so there’s only one other company that’s doing this right now and

It looks like there’s some good and bad. It looks like it’s gonna be a little bit more streamlined on the pixel

It’s gonna be a little bit

thinner won’t be as thick and as bulky.

Again, you know, I don’t have one of these in my hands, so I won’t be able to

really give it a whirl until they actually hit the market.

But there

were there will be some good new features I think they’re bringing that’ll be

a little bit better than the other.

And we’ll have to just see how it goes as it comes out, hits the market

and people have an opportunity to be able to play with them and take a look at them.

Yeah, and I am wondering how the accessibility is going to be.

I mean, I know that TalkBack is the Android screen reader that we would be using.

And I didn’t hear Google address accessibility at all yesterday, which I was kind of sad about.

But let’s hope that we would have good access to these new products.

I agree, definitely. I hope that they’ve implemented the accessibility features into their software

so that everyone has an opportunity to be able to use them. I would think that they

did do that, but we’ll just have to see how it all works. One thing I’m a little bit curious

about is I’m not sure anyone has seen a working screen reader on a folding phone, so that’ll

be interesting.

And I would just love to get my hands on that folding phone. I just can’t… Like I’m trying

to picture it in my head what it would look like.

Yeah, so if you were to take your phone and you were hold it vertically in your hand,

think of having a second phone on top of that phone.

And if you were to put them side by side, that’s basically what it’d be like with a

hinge in the middle.

Oh, that just sounds amazing.

I don’t know.

I have to, like I said, I might just have to get my hands on that somehow.

See what it’s like.

And Marty can let us know what other things he found,

you found interesting from the presentation from yesterday.

• Yeah, so they also came out with the Pixel 7a,

which is the middle of the road, a phone to the Pixel 7.

So every year they come out with, you know,

the phone that has all the features,

all the bells and whistles.

That one’s always a little bit more expensive.

Then they come out with the one that has the A after it,

which has all the important features,

but they leave out some things

to keep it a little bit more affordable

for those who want to have a solid phone,

but they don’t want to pay the higher price.

So that’s what came out yesterday was the Pixel 7a.

The Pixel 7 was already out.

And then there was also a Pixel tablet that was announced.

So they’re getting back into the tablet market

and we’ll have to see what that’s all about

and how that works once that hits the market.

And there was a bunch of other software developer things

that were announced as well.

So we’ll see all that stuff as it kind of hits the market

and ask our developer friends to chime in

on all of those things.

• Right, and also I guess the thing that I thought

what’s great was that, uh, Bard, Google Bard, their AI, um, app is now open to everyone.

Yeah, there’s no more wait lists, correct?

Without a wait list. Yeah. I think it’s certain countries. There are certain, is that, I,

if I’m not mistaken, it’s not everywhere, but.

I think in most places it is, uh, not a wait list anymore.

>> Right. Then also, they’re talking about really

incorporating the AI into regular Google search,

which is certainly something I would expect to be the case.

>> Yeah, definitely. We’ll just have to see how that all looks

once it hits and everyone is able to use it.

>> Right. They’re talking about how they’re going to,

having been able to open it up to everybody.

Now, there’s going to be a lot more input and

a lot more training, I guess,

from just having the openness,

people being able to use it.

My whole thing is, okay,

if I’m going to help train this thing,

do I get anything for that?

This is something I often think about.

But I used it yesterday and I think it’s getting better.

>> It’s getting better every day, I think.

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In this episode, we explore the power of using third-party apps like Hazel to automate tasks on your Mac. We take a deep dive into how to set up rules and conditions to move files from one folder to another automatically. Whether you’re looking to keep your downloads folder organized or need to move client files to the right folders, Hazel can save you time and headaches. We also discuss the next step in automation, which is creating a keyboard Maestro macro to send emails to clients with links to their files. Tune in to learn how to streamline your workflow and be more efficient with your Mac.

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Show Notes:

1. Ed Sheeran’s copyright lawsuit and its potential impact on creators.
2. Balancing the rights of creators with the flexibility needed for creativity.
3. The importance of staying safe in the digital world and using common sense.
4. Accessible Mother’s Day cards for moms with low vision.
5. The potential dangers of AI and its effects on society.

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In this episode of the Unmute Presents podcast, Marty and Michael are joined by Sheila to discuss audio description. Sheila breaks down what audio description is and how it is similar to captioning for the deaf population. Michael shares his personal experience with audio description and how it has become a staple in his movie and TV watching routine. The group also talks about a free service called Audio Vault, which offers audio-only downloads of movies and TV shows from the ’70s to current releases. They also mention the ADP website, which lists all the audio-described options for streaming services and movies. Finally, they provide tips on how to turn on audio description on various devices.